But you are the police officer taking her complaint. Just THESE links would be enough to prove my point : https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sideways-view/201505/the-anti-psychiatry-movement. The reg was flabbergasted with me but he finally said, Well if you just dont want to do it then I wont make you do it. This is Taylor Tweeds mother and brother speaking out about how they feel about Taylors suicide being featured on A&Es Scientology and the Aftermath. Well the distinctions you made about those who have had psych drugs and who have been institutionalized are good things to bring up. In fact when I was in I was told to go to a medical doctor twice. Yes Ms Tweed-we need kindness, love and respectwell said. And like me, there were others who had to do the same. But thats obviously not good enough for you. But Im sure that for anyone who has buried their child, the day after is still the same day.. At my org, this acted as a huge invalidation for quite a few individuals who protested about the looong running of processes disregarding any cognitions except the very specific and arbitrary ones decided by DM out of his own misinterpretation of the Tech. Hear Cathy Tweeds version of events. Asserting that most Scientologists dont seek proper medical treatment (be it through alternative more natural methods, or through conventional medicine) when they need it, is not only false, but it is an assertion only trying to Back PR (denigrate through lies) Scientology and Scientologists. I DO believe in the goodness of others, my friend, as one of my basic beliefs in live. Doh! I wanted to go quietly, but they would have none of it. She always made time for them while they played on the field . Thanks Marildi; thats a VERY interesting viewpoint indeed! They Mike Rinder and her decided on a specific narrative beforehand, and they are fishing for stories that fits and support that narrative. My only regret is that it opens up Cathy Tweed to cruel second-guessing by people like you. It sounds like you tried to help her and in the best way you knew. There isnt really hate involved. And Ill take a look at those videos, thanks! But maybe others didnt know the true story of how Tony Ortega got that quote from Cathy Tweed. Her funeral service took place at Saskatoon Funeral Home, 338 4th Ave North, on Monday, October 25, 2021 at 1:00 pm. For Type III, I would expect the person to get a Qual program, which may include The Introspection Rundown. This is what we need, being fair and balanced, and showing both sides of the coin while remaining compassionate to all sides. This is part of the STANDARD policy to handle, insanity (mental illnesses), what LRH called Sources of Trouble, and physical healing. In fact I flat out refused to do it. There really is nothing there TO reform. She states that she did take her daughter to doctors, but what kind of doctors? But a court room and a TV show are two different arenas. If Tayler Tweed was diagnosed with Bipolar, then of course she would be good on programs and bad off them. The suicide rate among young adults and teens has been growing over the past few decades. Is my post to be interpreted as that I think that ALL psychotropic drugs are harmful for the patient, and that at no moment any of them should be used to help someone? Rights to practice your religious beliefs are legally protected in the US even though they might go against some peoples moral codes, or even the moral (not.legal) codes of of the larger culture around them. But if my honest attempts at correcting anyone doesnt yield good results and sensible reformations, them I am obliged to act according for the greater good. Even to go so far to say (paraphrase), If the body is sick, force it to dig a ditch. They told this story. Shouldnt any real and caring mother, second guess herself, if her daughter felt that ending her life was the best option.? I dont think you do. But not all mothers have award winning, network sponsored TV shows magnifying their mistakes. Well, do all mothers make some mistakes? Hubbard had some harsh words for medicos and learned men, in general. When most anti-Scientologists refer to The church is doing this or that, and so on, or The church is Fair Gaming this or that one, they fail to recognize that they are ACTUALLY referring to ONE single individual whose orders are being robotically followed. This phenomenon is WELL KNOWN on the medical and psychotherapeutic community. Avoid the cult at all costs. I dont have to agree with Leah on everything to respect her. A less loaded example of this principle is what happened with chiropractors. He was a member of the Northumberland County Good News Club. If I were to drop dead in the sauna then the cult could say, Well he passed his physical exam by a medical doctor. But the second time was before another cycle of action. Marvin Ernest Seibold. Do you know a reference that says they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill? . The Aftermath is not fair and totally truthful when presenting the facts. What Mike Rinder and Leah Remini fail to clarify in their Anti-Scientology narrative, is that LIKE MOST PEOPLE INVOLVED IN VEGETARIANISM AND NATURAL HEALTH Scientologists prefer to use natural remedies and alternative medicine (which is practiced by a PROFESSIONAL LICENSED REAL DOCTOR as they like to call them, haha) before engaging in taking medicines and using conventional methods. those with money)., Can they reform? I used to think up to just 1-2 week ago that Rathbun had gone crazy with this fantasy of his and sort of conspiracy theory about an ASC (Anti-Scientology Cult). It is unnatural. I know that you think you are making the world a better place by coming on to a blog and expressing your disgust and hatred for a mother who lost her daughter to suicide, but youre really not. This is always a liability for anyone seeking the truth. How about the fact that she never refers to Tayler as her daughter!! Tayler Weldon DeBari November 13, 1986 -. Why? Or something actually never explained. I am just curious, I am not challenging you. What she went through is horrific. The whole diatribe about spreading hate is something someone says because they dont like the message. All right then, thanks for the update from Irmas path! I dont think that there is a They, Statpush, but rather a HE. There is a lot of information that neither Tony Ortega, nor Rachel Bernstein, nor Leah Remini, nor Mike Rinder have given you. Yet the chiros survived for the simple reason they did help people, often much better than doctors. Instead, they consume information from what they consider trusted sources (Leah, Mike, Tony O, etc), which aligns with their own convictions and emotions. This video only strengthens the anti-scientology/cult dialogue, as it is cold, calculated, and defensive. Mental health should be under the heading of psychotherapy not under the heading of religion., It seems to me that most spiritual teachers I have come across absolutely do include psychotherapy as part of their spiritual teaching, although they might not use that term. Certainly, the church needs to be more compassionate in general, especially with their existing public. Bethel Baptist Church of Greeneville. A woman is married to a known fundamentalist Jehovah Witness minister. Why is that? Public relations is not the answer to the Church of Scientologys problems. This is where the word cult shows some utility it can be used to designate a group which has morals that differ from the culture surrounding it. People are doxxing Cathy Tweed online. No one is perfect, and everyone makes mistakes. God bless Tayler. This aspect of Hubbard and Scn always irked me. Painting her as a drug addicted person who would not do the work is revolting. "Tweed" Mummert passed away at McDonough District Hospital on January 3rd, just 3 weeks shy of his 98 th birthday. You do know that Tony Ortega got that quote from Cathy Tweed about being at peace with it during a phone call he made to her on the day of Taylers funeral, right? I mean, how hypocritical can one get? Thats tough for me to get past. Is my post to be interpreted that there arent many, many psychiatrists who try to do the best they can do for their patients, and who concentrate on less invasive, and more alternative ways of effectively treating their patients? We assure you that we will regularly update all the information regarding Tyler Tweeds death when the details are made aware. Tyler Tweed Obituary - Death: In Loving Memory of Tyler Tweed: According to an online obituary on Friday, December 16, 2022, Tyler Tweed has passed away unexpectedly. It is the same with for example, priests who are also trained clinical psychologists, and who besides using the scriptures as a priest to spiritually orient the individuals he/she is trying to help, he also uses the tools of his trade as a trained clinical psychologist (or other type of psychotherapist) to help his parishioner. Because people like you who come on to blogs to post anonymously to trash a mother whose daughter committed suicide dont really get things like this, no matter what you say to them. She just refers to her as a troubled young woman. If someone told me I was joining a church I would have run for the door. I mean, just today Mike posted something basically mocking all those Scientologists who at least are trying to help at the disaster at Texas. Either you are dumb enough to do it or your not. She states very clearly that she took her to the University of Oregon where she was examined by 10 different doctors. Why do you think that Cathy Tweed would not second guess herself every single day? And her brother can shut his mouth. I am a long time friend of Taylers and have been in touch with her over the last several months. Plus it is now becoming more evident that there was a lot more to the story regarding Tayler and her mother which was left out of the episode. Currently, Tayler Woolston's death is widely spreading, and people are concerned to know about Tayler Woolston Obituary and want to get a real update. to death notices and obituaries in Australian newspapers: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Ryerson is a free service, but we do use google advertising on this search page to help defray our operating costs. I remember him saying something along the line that a Cult required a leader and some form of organization, and a belief system, and that there just wasnt any coordinated effort with specific leaders to destroy the church. Still, I had multiple prescriptions and two surgeries when I was in CofS. Theyre telling peoples stories. A LOT, I assure you, one of them being myself, and another being the mother of my daughter. Everett R. Tweed, III "Gene" MEGGETT, S.C. - Everett R. "Gene" Tweed, III, 77, of Meggett, husband of Betty B. Tweed, died Saturday, June 27, 2009 at Roper Hospital . To the contrary, I believe it had everything to do with her suicide and her mother is a robotic, lying piece of shit. VETERAN Obituary H.L. 1945 - 2023. Do you know that something called Critical Thinking exists? Then you have the HCO BULLETIN OF 28 JUNE 1969RA REVISED 26 JULY 1978 RE-REVISED 21 SEPTEMBER 1978, HOW TO CASE SUPERVISE DIANETICS FOLDERS which says : Very sick pcs are sent directly to a medico of course.. Dont get me wrong, the medical field produces a lot of miracles and Im not down on them in general. Very, very accurate description!! 1 2022 , , : / - , Copyright 2015 2024 rojgarlive.com All Rights Reserved. And I also explained how they used half-truths, ungrounded assumptions, and PLAIN lies to support their Anti-Scientology narrative. Are we expected to believe that in the allegedly most powerful country in the world, there is a mighty church who is guilty of many illegalities left and right, but that somehow the mighty USA government is totally incapable of doing anything about it, and for DECADES? Now, I challenge anyone to show me ANY reference where Scientology prohibits seeing a medical doctor; ANY. Regarding, Type III cases, I was referring to current onlines public. Sorry, but thats evaluative and rude. I am glad Leah and Mike are finally getting the truth out there. Thinking about this a bit more, the only set policy regarding suicide that Im aware of, is the routing-in metered interviews to the HGC (and possibly on sec checks), designed to filter-out undesirables. There was no need to insult you. She has no responsibility over the content of the episode she was in. I highly doubt that Cathy Tweed would allow that. I dont happen to resonate with that belief system, but I think its the right path for some people at this moment in their spiritual journey. B) A thorough medical examination by a REAL doctor to locate possible deficiencies, and unknown illnesses or injuries; and a professional medical treatment done on whatever was found. Must be Hurracaine Irma! But we assure you that we will provide the factual details when we are informed. Theyre presenting one side, and especially in this case, doing it in a very exploitative and manipulative way. Why would you want to contribute to Cathy Tweeds own inner hell? Mike is not sticking to a narrative like the narrative that most people who wanted the Catholic Church to stop child abuse stuck with that only focus on specific abuses, and on very specific and irrefutable evidence while leaving alone the religious aspects; but they are sticking to a narrative sort of : The church is an evil entity who doesnt believe in medicine, whose members never go see a medical doctor, and who are so brainwashed that they feel no loss when they lose their kids through Disconnection or death, and blah, blah. Following the death information, people wonder what was Tyler Tweed cause of death. Remove (or reform, or rehabilitate) such individual form the scenario, and sanity will find its way in again, I guarantee you that. So, to answer your question, Gtsix, about .how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment?, my answers to that is : The SAME way that THOUSANDS of individuals who have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Scientology think : uncomfortable and against it, and with VALID REASONS. Nice try, Gtsix, but I know better than to fall into the traps of rhetoric,. Mental health should be under the heading of psychotherapy not under the heading of religion. Obituaries can vary in the amount of information they contain, but many of them are genealogical goldmines, including information such as: names, dates, place of birth and death, marriage information, and family relationships. He was the oldest living past master of. He was a graduate of Middle Township High School's "Class of 69" and was a member of the reunion committee, helping to plan all class reunions. This whole video reeks like a ad misericordiam, the logical fallacy that because someone should be pitied, theyre innocent. At one point, she expressed frustration at being blamed for making her SO brother ill (whom she had not seen for years). This simply makes critics into hysterical ninnies who should continue to be ignored by anyone with legal power and who is serious about reforming scientology. My local AO wouldnt deliver this, instead either hat a family member, or turn it over to a field auditor. I suspect Mike and Leahs tactics are based on the supposition that public exposure to harmful practices results in reformation. Like SO MANY medical doctors, psychologists and psychiatrists BELIEVE today, there is such a thing called Psychosomatic Illnesses, which means illnesses brought about by the different kinds of mental stresses that an individual might be undergoing in his/her life. Unfortunately we have little . I cant get my comment posted because Im telling the truth about the sham that is Scientology. Its a cult with few members and lots of real estate, paying NO TAXES. If auditors were licensed, then they could not forbid people from getting the medical treatment they need without losing their license. Dec. 4, 2022. On the broader perspective of exes and whistleblowers who have sufficient experience within the churches or Orgs to know the policies and tech points that motivate and guide the group effort, as well as the counselling and training points that create the graduated indoc into the subject and benefits across the dynamics,,, i find it very curious that a situation is created that these would have the need to go to external and non scn sources in order to get justice or warn others ,,, Its telling me that the wisdom and purpose of the subject matter contained in books and lectures is being sidelined for the purpose of enforcing attitudes and behaviours in a very careless and stupid manner. https://tonyortega.org/2016/04/28/a-scientologist-heading-for-suicide-the-missing-tayler-tweed-facebook-postings/. Most of the time internet deceives the audience by passing news about a healthy person as if they are dead. I could not do anything like that. That, btw, is the key principle I believe Marty is standing up for. My step-Mom asked me last week if it was true that Scientology doesnt allow its members to use medical doctors. And its the most insidious problem with what Leah and Mike are doing. Nothing could be further from the truth; the anti-psychiatry movement has always existed PRIOR to Scn, and has been supported by many medical doctors and psychotherapists THEMSELVES, and by a large portion of the population (though I am not quoting any percentages here, but certainly, there are in the thousands!). "Because of something that took place earlier in the day, I am writing this tonight with a sad heart because of what has been going on. And btw, I DO study the works of many, many great psychiatrists whom I greatly admire. C) Getting the person to move to a non stressful environment and to temporarily get away from hostile people and environments. Shes shining a light on some very horrific things. For his role as a spiritual healer, or advisor, no licensing is expected, of course. What we need to do is to push for reformation with an specific message (non accusative, non punitive, non harshly critical) repeated over and over again, while showing specific instances that totally prove our points. It is called, POLICIES ON PHYSICAL HEALING, INSANITY AND SOURCES OF TROUBLE written on 27 Oct 1964 : Any process labeled healing, old or new, refers to healing by mental and spiritual means and should therefore be looked upon as the relief of difficulties arising from mental and spiritual causes., The proper procedure in being requested to heal some complained-of physical disability is as follows:, 1. Perhaps Mike Rinders memory got blank because he went pass a misunderstood word, and now he has forgotten about the policies, haha. Thats how they get people hooked. Since thats the post youre commenting on? A documentary film is a nonfictional motion picture intended to document some aspect of reality, primarily for the purposes of instruction, education, or maintaining a historical record. Currently, Tyler Tweeds death is widely spreading, and people are concerned to know about Tyler Tweed Obituary and want to get a real update. Shar, did you even took the time to read my looong post at this thread?? I am glad Leah and Mike are finally getting the truth out there. My own experience had mostly been as a Mission staff that then became a small org. Am I the only one that realizes this woman never actually cries she just fake sniffles. If we were to go and try to rescue those in the RPF or The Hole (if it even exist today, which I DOUBT it very much), they would probably say, What the fuck are you doing here? vitamins, minerals, chiropractors, etc) to address a medical condition, along with some type of auditing program or PTS handling. Youll be send back in a plane (if thats how you got there) to your home to go see a licensed medical doctor, get properly treated, and once you are DONE, go back WITH the evidence that you did so. However, here is the information we fetched from Tyler Tweed. My God, and you dare criticize Scientologists by their alleged lack of compassion? Am I really suppose to believe that all the people who have spoken up just woke up one day and decided to try and fuck this church up for no reason? The first time was to get a physical and full check up before the Purif. Now you got me confused again, Marildi. http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Scientology_Suicides#The_dead_cannot_tell_us, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder, (You must log in or sign up to reply here.). We were trained to be able to raise above our own cases, and to keep our Acts One in (Straightwiring out the reasons why we didnt want to help a certain PC). Can be really call that a Desire at reformation? Tyler Tweed Death, Obituary - Tyler Tweed of Marshall, Wisconsin, has reportedly died unexpectedly with loved ones, family and the entire community left heartbroken and in grievance, according to online sharing. Apparently it was a policy set by Hubbard that one needed to find out about any health issues and then get it or them taken care of before starting this course. He was a life member for more than 74 years with the Americus Hose Company, Bloody Third Ward. No more complex than that really. Public relations is not the answer to the Church of Scientologys problems.. It isnt true that Scn doesnt believe in doctors. Taylor met his wife, Angela Mondello Bass in 2010. 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